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CONTENTS

Title Page

Copyright Page

QUOTATIONS

EDITORS’ NOTE

AMERICA

Part ITwo Conversations: J. Krishnamurti and Professor Jacob Needleman

1THE ROLE OF THE TEACHER

2ON INNER SPACE; ON TRADITION AND DEPENDENCE

Part IIThree Talks in New York City

1INNER REVOLUTION

The need to change. A process in time or instantaneous? The conscious and the unconscious; dreams. The analytical process. To see the content of consciousness without the separation of observer and observed. Noise and resistance. “When there is complete cessation of division between the observer and the observed, then ‘what is’ is no longer what is.” QUESTIONS: Observer and observed; fragmentation; resistance.

2RELATIONSHIP

Relationship. “You are the world”. The separate self; corruption. To see what actually “is”. What love is not. “We have no passion; we have lust, we have pleasure.” To understand what death is. Love is its own eternity. QUESTIONS: The concept of good and bad; sharing; pain and fear: how to be free of the past?

3RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE. MEDITATION

Is there a religious experience? Search for truth; the meaning of search. “What is a religious mind?” “What is the quality of mind which is no longer experiencing?” Discipline; virtue; order. Meditation is not an escape. The function of knowledge and freedom from the known. “Meditation is to find out if there is a field not already contaminated by the known.” “The first step is the last step.” QUESTIONS: The analogy of dirt; awareness; consciousness; love; psychological time.

Part IIITwo Conversations: J. Krishnamurti and Alain Naudé

1THE CIRCUS OF MAN’S STRUGGLE

2ON GOOD AND EVIL

INDIA

Part IVTwo Conversations: J. Krishnamurti and Swami Venkatesananda

1The guru and search. Four schools of Yoga scrutinised (Karma, Bhakti, Raja, Gnana Yoga).

2Four “mahavakyas” from the Upanishads discussed. Communication and the Bodhisattva ideal. Vedanta and the ending of knowledge.

Part VThree Talks in Madras

1THE ART OF SEEING

To see, not partially but totally. “The act of seeing is the only truth.” Of the vast mind only a fragment is used. The fragmentary influence of culture, tradition. “Living in a little corner of a distorted field.” “You cannot understand through a fragment.” Freedom from “the little corner”. The beauty of seeing.

2FREEDOM

To share a free mind. “If we could come upon this, it is really a mysterious flower.” Why has man not got this thing? Fear. “Living” is not living. Words taken for substance. Wastage of energy. “The mature mind has no comparison … no measure.” The validity of “the life that you lead every day . . . without understanding it you will never understand love, beauty, or death”. Through negation that thing which alone is the positive comes into being.

3THE SACRED

Ploughing, never sowing. Ideation. Sensitivity lacking in daily life. Attention and intelligence. Disorder in ourselves and the world: our responsibility. The question of seeing. Images and direct contact. The sacred. “When you have that love you can put away all your sacred books.”

Part VIFour Dialogues in Madras

1CONFLICT

Images: are we aware that we see through images? Concepts; the gap between concepts and daily living; resulting conflict. “To get illumination you must be able to look.” “To live without conflict, but not to go to sleep.”

2THE PURSUIT OF PLEASURE

Self-interest and self-dedication. Demand for satisfaction. Levels of gratification. Has psychological gratification any meaning? “A whirlpool of mischief and misery inwardly.” Aggression. Pursuit of pleasure. “There are no roots of heaven in pleasure—there are only roots of indifference and pain.” Watching is its own discipline.

3TIME, SPACE AND THE CENTRE

The ideal, the concept, and “what is”. Need to understand suffering: pain, loneliness, fear, envy. The ego-centre. The space and time of the centre. Is it possible not to have an ego-centre and yet live in this world? “We live within the prison of our own thinking.” To see the structure of the centre. To look without the centre.

4A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION

What is clear thinking in relation to daily living? Meeting the present with the past. How to live with memory and technological knowledge and yet be free of the past? Double life: temple, office. How to live without fragmentation?—to answer from a concept is further fragmentation. Silence before the immensity of a fundamental question. “Can you live so completely that there is only the active present now?”

EUROPE

Part VIISeven Talks in Saanen, Switzerland

1WHAT IS YOUR OVER-RIDING INTEREST?

Passion and intensity needed. The inner and outer: can they be divided? QUESTIONS: Pleasure and interest; God; children and education; many different interests; the meaning of demonstrations; of love, truth and order.

2ORDER

The mind only knows disorder. The state of “not-knowing”. The “self” is part of the culture, which is disorder. QUESTIONS: Is the mind capable of looking? Analysis; the guru: relationship with Krishnamurti; can you look at yourself?

3CAN WE UNDERSTAND OURSELVES?

The problem of self-knowledge is the problem of looking. To look without fragmentation, without the “me”. Analysis, dreams and sleep. The problem of the “observer” and of time. “When you look at yourself without the eyes of time, who is there to look?” QUESTIONS: Are some images necessary? Is evaluation vitiated by our state of confusion? Conflict.

4LONELINESS

Preoccupation with oneself. Relationship. Action in relationship and daily life. Images isolate: the understanding of image-building. “Self-concern is my major image.” Relationship without conflict means love. QUESTIONS: Can the self have unmotivated passion? Images; drugs and stimulants.

5THOUGHT AND THE IMMEASURABLE

Can thought solve our problems? The function of thought. The field of thought and its projections. Can the mind enter into the immeasurable? What is the factor of illusion? Physical and mental fear and escapes. The mind that is constantly learning. QUESTIONS: Can one observe without judgment and evaluation? Is perception seeing something totally? Can words be used to describe a non-verbal state?

6THE ACTION OF WILL AND THE ENERGY NEEDED FOR RADICAL CHANGE

Great energy needed; its wastage. Will is resistance. Will as assertion of the “me”. Is there action without choice, which is not motivated? “To look with eyes that are not conditioned.” Choiceless awareness of conditioning. To see and reject the falseness. What love is not. To face the question of death. “The ending of energy as the ‘me’ is the capacity to look at death.” Energy to look at the unknown: supreme energy is intelligence. QUESTIONS: We understand intellectually, but can’t live it; is a man capable? How to listen? Are not feelings and emotions the cause of violence?

7THOUGHT, INTELLIGENCE, AND THE IMMEASURABLE

Different meanings of space. The space we think and act from; the space that thought has built. How is one to have immeasurable space? “To carry our burden and yet to seek freedom.” Thought which does not divide itself is moving in experiencing. The meaning of intelligence. Harmony: mind, heart and organism. “Thought is of time, intelligence is not of time.” Intelligence and the immeasurable. QUESTIONS: Hatha Yoga. Is there separation of observer and observed in technological work? Awareness and sleep.

Part VIIIFive Dialogues in Saanen

1THE FRAGMENTATION OF CONSCIOUSNESS

Are we aware that we look at life fragmentarily? The conditioning of consciousness. Do we really know its content? Is there a division into conscious and unconscious? The observer is part of the content of consciousness. Is there any agent outside this conditioned content? “Tricks I play upon myself.” What is action? Since the self is fragmented, “I” cannot see life as a totality.

2IS INTELLIGENCE AWAKE?

What is the relationship between intelligence and thought? The limitations of conditioned thinking. No new movement can take place if the “old brain” is constantly in operation. “I have been going South, thinking I was going North.” The perception of the limitations of the old is the seed of intelligence. Is the “new” recognisable? The different dimension can only operate through intelligence.

3FEAR

The link between pleasure and fear; the role of thought. Thought cannot reduce the uncertain unknown to terms of knowledge. Need to see the structure of fear. Psychologically, tomorrow may not exist. What does, “To live wholly in the present” imply?

4FEAR, TIME AND THE IMAGE

Chronological and psychological time. The dilemma of knowledge. The dilemma of thought and the image. Can one find the root of fear? “The mind that can never be hurt.”

5INTELLIGENCE AND THE RELIGIOUS LIFE

What is a religious life? Relationship between meditation and the quiet mind. Thought as measure; the action of measurement. How can the immeasurable be understood? Intelligence as the relationship between the measurable and the immeasurable. The awakening of intelligence. Choiceless awareness. Learning, not accumulating knowledge.

ENGLAND

Part IXTwo Talks at Brockwood

1THE RELATIONSHIP TO AWARENESS OF THOUGHT AND THE IMAGE

The uses and limitations of thought. Images: the authority of the image. “The more sensitive one is, the greater the burden of images.” Analysis and images. Psychological order; causes of disorder: opinion, comparison, images. Possible dissolution of images. Formation of images. Attention and inattention. “It is only when the mind is inattentive that the image is formed.” Attention and harmony: mind, heart, body.

2THE MEDITATIVE MIND AND THE IMPOSSIBLE QUESTION

“Meditation is the total release of energy.” Western world built on measurement, which is maya for the East. Schools of meditation useless. Energy depends on self-knowledge. Problem of self-observation. To look “without the eyes of the past”. Naming. The hidden in oneself. Drugs. The hidden content and the impossible question. “Meditation is a way of putting aside altogether everything that man has conceived of himself and the world.” A radical revolution in one affects the whole world. What takes place when the mind is quiet? “Meditation is . . . seeing the measure and going beyond the measure.” Harmony and a “totally different life”. QUESTIONS: Intuition; awareness; awareness and sleep; teacher and disciple.

Part XA Discussion with a small group at Brockwood

VIOLENCE AND THE “ME”

Does change imply violence? To what extent do we reject violence? Violence and energy: observing violence. What is the root of violence? Understanding the “me”; the “me” that wants to change is violent. Does the “me” or intelligence see? The implications of seeing.

Part XIConversation: J. Krishnamurti and Professor David Bohm

ON INTELLIGENCE

Thought is of the order of time; intelligence is of a different order, different quality. Is intelligence related to thought? Brain the instrument of intelligence; thought as a pointer. Thought, not intelligence, dominates the world. Problem of thought and the awakening of intelligence. Intelligence operating in a limited framework can serve highly unintelligent purposes. Matter, thought, intelligence have a common source, are one energy; why did it divide? Security and survival: thought cannot consider death properly. “Can the mind keep the purity of the original source?” Problem of the quietening of thought. Insight, the perception of the whole, is necessary. Communication without the interference of the conscious mind.

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