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For John, after all and before much more

“But whether true or false, my opinion is that in the world of knowledge the idea of good appears last of all.”

Plato

“If I knew for certain that a man was coming to my house with the conscious desire of doing me good, I should run for my life.”

H. D. Thoreau

“If you want to know the taste of a pear, you must change the pear by eating it yourself. If you want to know the theory and methods of revolution, you must take part in revolution. All genuine knowledge originates in direct experience.”

Chairman Mao